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Technical vega steering box

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by spillaneswillys, Oct 26, 2016.

  1. I decided to change to cross steering with a Vega box. Unfortunately Borgeson and all of their suppliers are out of stock due to some part Borgeson is waiting on and they are at least a month out. I see the reviews for a number of other boxes and they don't read too favorable . The only box I can't find anything on is by Helix, sold by some major hot rod supplier. Anybody know anything about them?
     
  2. Dirty Dug
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    Wait for Borgeson. It will be worth the wait.
     
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  3. Man, you've been here since 2010, Helix is Hoffman Group. Pay attention in class! From Hoffman, it may as well be made of Play-Doh.
     
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  4. olscrounger
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    X2--No helix-think that is part of the Hoffman group-Borgeson only for me
     

  5. I will place the order and wait.
     
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  6. Jalopy Joker
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    what is the exact part that you are in need of?
     
  7. I have used Flaming River with success as well.
    Helix? Just search Hoffman and make your decision
     
  8. I need a whole box
     
  9. Jalopy Joker
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    tried places like speedwaymotors.com ?
     
  10. 48stude
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  11. Didn't Borgeson buy Mullins?
     
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  12. 31Apickup
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    Yeah they did. You could go to a 525 box which is slightly bigger than a Vega.
     
  13. dirty old man
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    I have a Borgeson/Mullins and it's a good box. Wait for it.
     
  14. bchctybob
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    I used Vega boxes from Speedway for the last two chassis I did. I don't know where they come from but they are working fine. Price is right. Be aware that they need to be adjusted prior to use.
     
  15. Jason Slover at Pete & Jakes still has a few Borgeson Vega steering boxes. I got one from him last week, after being strung along by Summit for four months.

    And P&J offers free shipping for Alliance Members!
     
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  16. Gary Addcox
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    By the way, the 525 box will fit on a vega weld-in mount. It is slightly bigger, but a bit heavier. It works excellent in rods larger than, say, '36 Fords. In fact, some on here recommend the 525 over the vega when used in '37 and up.
     
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  17. Jalopy Joker
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    x2
     
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  18. HotRod31
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    I just used a Borgeson 525 box in a Model A truck, very happy with it. It is a little bigger (beefier) than a vega box . You will want the one they build with the short input shaft. If I remember correctly it was a couple bucks cheaper.
     
  19. 117harv
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    How about a want add here?
     
  20. guess I'm fortunate to have a junk yard where I can get one if needed. Just have to be selective, they are getting old.
     
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  21. It feel it fair to mention that one could go totally trad and buy a Corvair box. Lost of them easily had for a good price refurbished or repopped.

    Just a thought
     
  22. Is a new Borgeson Vega/Saginaw 140 stout enough for a fendered '30 A coupe , SBC combo with cross steering ?
    Or is the 525 what I should go with...
    Stan
     
  23. dirty old man
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    I'm running one on a non fendered "A" hiboy 3 years now with no problem, also sbc power. But it is a true Borgerson/Mullins, a friend ran one on a 'blown 32, first he bought a Chinese knock off, went bad in a hurry, no problems on the '32, with Borgeson/Mullins, still on it when he sold it.
     
  24. In my humble opinion, yes. I have run them on cars heavier than yours for thousands of miles with no problems.
    I also had an original GM 525 in my 32 coupe and I hated it - Too slow (Higher ratio, although I understand the Boregeson version is essentially the same as the Vegamatic)
     
  25. I called Pete And Jakes tuesday and they are sold out
     
  26. Shit load of them on the bay.
     
  27. dirty old man
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    On the Bay, you can lay pretty good odds they are the Chinese knockoffs.
     
  28. That's true also.
     
  29. krylon32
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    Only Mullins/Borgeson boxes on my customer chassis. Their safety comes ahead of saving a few bucks.
     
  30. blackbeard40
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    I used a Vega box from CPP in Placentia CA on 34 Ford pickup. They claim it was made in Germany. Been in for a year + and works fine.
     

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