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FLATHEADS of German origin! pics/help

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by LIMEY, Mar 14, 2004.

  1. LIMEY
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    Don't know if any of you guys have run into these German flatheads, i've just picked up four of 'em & they all have the Cologne Ford markings cast into them & come with all Bosch 12v electrics & a solex carb.
    The distributor is mounted at the rear like the big Lincoln & has the numbers VG8 BR 63 on it, i need to locate dist cap, rotor & points......any ideas? the existing caps are all smashed so i have no pattern to go on.
    I was told from a good source they are of the larger CI but until i pull a head to measure the stroke i can't confirm that.
    Maybe our German Hambers can help on this one.
     

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    sorry about the crap picture quality...
     

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  7. jerry
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    that looks like alot like a mallry to me. might check on the size difference, if there is one.


    jerry
     
  8. LIMEY
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    I know what you mean, i had a mallory duel point in a Cad 331 about 15 yrs ago & remember that rotor looking very simular & the cap was a two piece thing that had to be pulled apart to remove the leads.
    The remnants of the Bosch cap showed it was fairly std looking & the leads just pushed in,
    but you are right it does look like that old Mallory one.
     
  9. 34Fordtk
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    Well as you have 4 you could send me one then you wont have to look for a cap! [​IMG] Looks like a Mallory to me also.
     
  10. Are there any Bosch numbers on the distributor that would help?
    What is the diameter of the distributor at the top?
     
  11. Jalopy Banger
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    32LIMEY,
    what kind of internet conection do You have? I can zip all my files about this engine i have and mail You. The 1955 manual for example.
     
  12. PFF
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    Kev
    Can you get the Bosch numbers, I deal with them and may be able to find something for you.
    Have you got that coupe yet ?

    Pete
     
  13. Kev,

    Check your PM's & e-mail....

    Dave

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  14. HotRodMicky
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    Hey Kev,

    send Mike aka Flatordead an email .

    He's the man .Should have all the parts for you.


    Regards
    Michael
     
  15. Kilroy
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    ...now where's the number of that opthamologist?...
     
  16. LIMEY
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    Thanks for the replies, just got back from work so i will try to answer.
    1,34Fordtk come & get one....slip it in your hand luggage [​IMG]
    2,UnklIan the Bosch # on the distributor is VG8 BR 63.
    3,Thor 128kb broadband & thanks thats really decent of you.
    4,Pete not yet but real soon i think [​IMG] & the only numbers are as above on the side of the dizzy.
    5,Dave thanks i'll give him a try, & see you soon as i've just booked the flights....but can't get anywhere booked in Paso! all sold out [​IMG].
    6,HotRodMickey i've sent Flatordead a pm....thanks!
    7,Kilroy...what do you mean...now where's that white stick! [​IMG] sorry my camera is shite.
     
  17. Mr 42
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  18. Bruce Lancaster
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    The "G 29 T" on that and various characteristics shown in the block pictures mean that the thing is basically a prewar Merc/Heavy truck pattern big bore flathead, despite the time of building and the new type heads. Interesting that Ford updated the German engines with new type heads (still with the "29" designation) but kept using the prewar block patterns. Have you found out yet whether it has full floating bearings or late type and whether the valves are straight or mushroom foot?
     
  19. 34Fordtk
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    Thanks 32Limey but I dont think it would go carry on [​IMG]
     
  20. LIMEY
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    MR 42 thanks for the link & the better pics [​IMG] they are the same with the cologne markings as the ones i have, although i have pm'd Flatordead i would like his e-mail address also.....thankyou.
    Bruce i've not pulled any of these apart yet, but as you said i was told big bore truck & simular to Merc.
    Its turning out to be quite a good score......if Flat Ernie is reading this he'll be pleased as one has his name on it!
    Kev.
     
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    Thanks for the replies,
    5,Dave thanks i'll give him a try, & see you soon as i've just booked the flights....but can't get anywhere booked in Paso! all sold out [​IMG].



    [/ QUOTE ]

    We are staying in Cambria on Friday night, its about a 25 min drive, email me if you want the details.

    See ya there!

    dave

     
  22. Jalopy Banger
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  23. LIMEY
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    Thor.....you the man!! thanks a million. [​IMG]
     
  24. Mr 42
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    Tusen Tack Thor....
     
  25. Baumi
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    I´ve just called my local " since 1928" Bosch dealer and asked for the Dist#. Only thing he found out was that your dist # should be VG 8 BR 163, not VG 8 BR 63. The new BOSCH # for the whole distributor is 0231 108 005. I´m afraid he couldn´t find out the cap number although he had contacted Bosch directly.
    But I´m sure Mike "flatordead" is able to help you out.
     
  26. LIMEY
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    Baumi, i found the piece of paper last night with the number on & i thought sheet i missed the #1 out, as you kindly said VG 8 BR 163.....i was having one of my retarded moments [​IMG]
     
  27. Jalopy Banger
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    The ford part # is G19W-12116. If You find some i can use a pair also. [​IMG]
     
  28. Mr 42
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    Thor and 32Limey iv mailed Flatordeads email adress to you.

    Thor i have been able to buy breakers here in Sweden on a swapmeet, but Flatordead is cheaper.

     
  29. Baumi
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    I´ve been told by "Mr. Bosch" that they still sell those distributors #0213 108 005. So I guess caps should be availible directly from Bosch...
     
  30. LIMEY
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    thanks guys all this info is so helpful, what was the Ford part #G19W-12116 for??
     

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