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Projects 31 Kustom Roadster (DIY duvall, tudor to roadster conversion)

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Chevy28, Feb 13, 2020.

  1. Tow Truck Tom
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    O M G Doctor Motor City
     
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  2. HelminenHotrods
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    Heres the back end finished.

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  3. HelminenHotrods
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    The motor and transmission is in place.
    Made some styling to the lower mount, nothing crazy but something to give it some soul and more 3D style :D
    Forgot to the pictures of the transmission mount before welding. That is also pretty simple with styling to match the flathead style motormount rubbers
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    And the transmission mount:
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  4. JimSibley
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    Very cool build. Unique without being to much. I like it.
     
  5. Outback
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    Agreed!

    Nice work :D
     
  6. HelminenHotrods
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    Thanks guys ! It is a very thin line between stylish and too much ! Trying to find the balance !
     
  7. HelminenHotrods
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    Couple more pics of the transmission mount:

    IMG_20240224_214759.jpg IMG_20240224_214920.jpg

    I also did an service to the hurst competiton plus shifter, and modified it to ball-joint linkage+ new slimmer linkage

    Starting point.
    The linkage taking quite a space from drivers side. Not too much that can be done without major modifications, but i decided to try something. Also the linkage was all worn-out. IMG_20240205_193601.jpg
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    Rusty and dirty inside. It was in decent working condition but not smooth operating :
    IMG_20240216_200950.jpg IMG_20240216_201927.jpg

    Taking apart and cleended: IMG_20240216_230449.jpg

    Smoothing the edged for better operation : IMG_20240216_223924.jpg IMG_20240216_224144.jpg

    Cut and add an 0.30mm shim plate :
    IMG_20240218_195037.jpg IMG_20240218_203250.jpg

    Modified the linkage to ball-joints. Could of used the original style bushings, but as i intended to build new linkage so i decided to go with ball-joints:
    IMG_20240217_192259.jpg IMG_20240217_193745.jpg

    Clean, new grease. Was a real bitch of an work to get the springs back in :D
    IMG_20240217_004000.jpg

    And the finished product :
    IMG_20240220_154226.jpg IMG_20240220_154255.jpg IMG_20240220_154311.jpg

    And the new linkage build, and in place :
    IMG_20240224_192115.jpg IMG_20240224_192146.jpg IMG_20240224_213514.jpg IMG_20240224_213539.jpg IMG_20240224_213527.jpg
     
  8. HelminenHotrods
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    Time for some updates.
    Plan was to do basic main bearing and seal service for the muncie m21, but there was more to it. The reverse gears and the countershaft pin were toasted, so now it's parts wating from the us. The syncro rings were also quite worn out also, so i ordered them too.
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    Decided to polish the cases and bellhousing while wating for the parts. Its nowhere near perfect, but to be thrown to bottom of a car, it will do for now.
    Also find crack in the transimission mounting ear while polishing, and had friend welded it. Almost not visible crack, but when opened up and welded, it was almost cracked all the way trought

    The crack. There was also one other ear welded earlier : IMG_20240305_213539__01.jpg

    Polished cases : IMG_20240227_214845.jpg IMG_20240310_193653.jpg IMG_20240310_193701.jpg IMG_20240310_193711.jpg

    The parts havent arrived yet, its about 3-4 weeks always to get them from us to finland. Hoping they dont get stuck in the transportation, because there is a big walk-out/strike going on in finland docs
     
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  9. patsurf
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    oh--and by the way--WOW!
     
  10. HelminenHotrods
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    Still waiting for the transmission parts to arrive
    In the meanwhile started building an 90 degree pedal assembly.
    I was planning on building traditional setup with floor pedals, using the early ford pedals, but the space is so limited with the X-member and i'm planning on building the exhaust all the way back, so change of plans !

    So building early style under dash pedals. These i-beam pedals are maybe f1 ford ?

    Pedals and the 90 degree linkage has oilite brass bushings, with brass (and copper) sliders on sides.

    Brake pedal is 5:1 pedal ratio, booster setup. And the clutch is 6:1 ratio. IMG_20240311_195047.jpg IMG_20240311_202041.jpg IMG_20240311_210126.jpg IMG_20240311_210133.jpg

    Didnt take too many pictures of the process but heres some IMG_20240325_191348.jpg IMG_20240325_191426.jpg
    IMG_20240325_191439.jpg

    The 90 degree link: IMG_20240325_191114.jpg IMG_20240325_191133.jpg IMG_20240325_194816.jpg IMG_20240326_164347.jpg IMG_20240326_164416.jpg IMG_20240326_164331.jpg IMG_20240325_205744.jpg

    And this is the pretty much finished product, for so far

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    Heres with the mounting frame bolted on. The support tubing is going to welded to that, and the brake booster/mastercylinder is going to mounted on that.
    IMG_20240328_231910.jpg IMG_20240328_231847.jpg IMG_20240328_231706.jpg

    Mock up. The reason why booster/mc is separated from the pedal box is because it needs to clear the gauges. The usual store setups would be hitting the gauge.
    IMG_20240403_213039.jpg

    One thing is sure, this thing is heavy as hell. And other one is it's going to be pain in the ass to fill the reservoir tanks. But hoping the pedal position and exhaust routing makes it worth the effort !
     
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  11. Squablow
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    So the booster is going to be mounted at a 90 degree angle, and under the dash? That's the wildest master cylinder layout I've ever seen. I really want to see what this looks like in the car.

    The polish job on the transmission is beautiful, very nice work.
     
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  12. HelminenHotrods
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    Yes sir it's going to be under the dash. You can buy these sort of setups from Kugel Komponents and even from ebay the chinese crappy ones :D
    The Kugel one looks like this :
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    I dont think i'm able to hide it all the way inside the dash. But trying best to make it not stick out
     
  13. Squablow
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    Wild, I never knew that was a thing. Would you have dual cowl vents like a 30's Mopar to fill them, or just a hose/pump of some kind? Maybe a glove box door access? Very interesting, I look forward to seeing this mounted, I had no idea this was a thing.
     
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  14. HelminenHotrods
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    The cowl vents would be perfect for filling them mastercylinders. Vents kind of look cool, but not just sure about them yet.
    Other thing might some service hatch to firewall.
    Will see how hard it is to fill once i get these assembled on the car. Maybe peeking with mirrors and filling with a syringe might be the most unvisible solution

    One thing i've been thinking is making the support frame also mounting to the frame directly. So the pedal assembly could be leaved on the frame, while lifting the body off. It would require removable toeboard and transmission tunnel
     
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  15. Outback
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    Nice work, good to see the bushes & grease grooves, very well thought out & not slapped together.
     
  16. Squablow
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    An easily removable dash might also give easy access. Interesting stuff going on with this car, I like it.
     
  17. AmishMike
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    Was admiring your engine & tranny mounts had to go over a 2nd time to see all welded multi piece then sanded & polished to look like one solid piece. To prove you like polishing you do the whole transmission. Wow, nice work
     
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  18. HelminenHotrods
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    Dash mounts are already done, its removable fairly easy. Made it remove to "back way" or to the firewalls direction so it's thight fit between pedalbox.
    IMG_6066.JPG IMG_6071.JPG IMG_6081.JPG IMG_6074.JPG IMG_20221101_192449.jpg

    Good thing is that treoretically there should not be a reason to be needing filling up the mastercylinders all the time. Hoping the summit parts are decent quality :)
     
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  19. HelminenHotrods
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    Thank you sir ! Not the funniest place to do service under the dash, so trying to make everything good and long lasting quality !
     
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  20. HelminenHotrods
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    Thank you sir ! I don't admit i like polishing but it has become an habbit :D
     
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  21. DrJekyllMrHyde
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    Hi, your work, ongoing energy and artistic design abilities are outstanding.
    I thought I had some skills myself, but you’re lightyears ahead!
    One question though, are you sponsered by some company doing abrasive tools?
    All that grinding and polishing takes some flapwheels, they don’t come cheap!
    You’re a wizard with those.
    One funny thing, I see you’re using a danish Migatronic, I’m using a Finnish Kemppi….
    If you make it sometime to Kustom Kulture Show, I’ll go there…again.
    Cheers!
     
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  22. HelminenHotrods
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    Thank you !
    3M sponsor would not hurt at all :D Going trough all off them from cutting to polishing and blocking and buffing ! Good Idea !

    Interesting thing as well is this Ford is originally from Denmark. I have the original documents from 1931, and MOTs from the 60s.

    Kustom Kulture is the place to be, and participate ! Sometime :D
     
  23. AmishMike
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    Looking at fantastic engine & tranny mounts again. How many pieces did u weld up for that tranny mount? A quick drawing off all the pieces would be amazing. Tks
     
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  24. clem
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    I was expecting to see something that was hinged and could swing out to top up the master cylinder.
    You will be surprised to see what you can do with a large syringe, a bit of clear tube and a little mirror for the odd time you need to top it up or check it.

    amazing work all around !
    That dash is just beautiful.
    Looking forward to seeing the finished result.
    Thanks for taking us along with this thread.
    .
     
  25. HelminenHotrods
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    Hey Mike !
    The transmission mount is pretty much Flat bar with flavour. Major elements are made of 4 pieces. The bottomside small edges were added for better looks, those were 4, kind of half moon shaped.

    The upper one, that bolt on to the transmission is made of flatbar.

    Heres some pics
    IMG_20240224_214920__01__01.jpg IMG_20240209_231346__01.jpg

    Used some holeshawing leftover for the round parts. This motor mount holesaw cutted piece left the leftover round piece from the inside, to be used in the transmount
    IMG_20240202_230931.jpg IMG_20240224_214759.jpg
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2024
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  26. HelminenHotrods
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    Thanks Clem !
    Things are bit tricky, but small solid steps ahead !
    It gives me confort knowing the parts are all new, so there should not be needing to add or servive otherwise the braking system all the time.
    Altought the cluth wilwood is some what years old, come to me as new, from other project
     
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  27. AmishMike
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    Got to tell u when first saw tranny mount I thought it was cast. Amazed that you welded up & sand smooth. Fantastic work.
     
  28. HelminenHotrods
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    The pedal/booster/mastercylinder assembly is done for now. Time to start thinking about mounting it to the body.
    Added couple slider bushings for the booster rod, to keep it perfectly straight throught the motion.
    Booster is set up further to the passenger side, because it needs to clear the oldsmobile gauge.
    Gas pedal i'm going to ad later on

    IMG_20240406_221400.jpg IMG_20240407_184950__01.jpg IMG_20240407_184955.jpg IMG_20240423_202049.jpg IMG_20240423_202207.jpg IMG_20240423_202330.jpg IMG_20240423_202223.jpg IMG_20240423_202249.jpg IMG_20240423_202346.jpg IMG_20240423_202317.jpg
     
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  29. NJ Don
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    Where is your revised shift lever going to be in relation to your seat? Are you using bucket seats?
     
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  30. 29plymouthroad
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    Is that the universal kwik top kit ?
     
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