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Discussion in 'Questions & Suggestions' started by The37Kid, Feb 16, 2024.

  1. desotot
    Joined: Jan 29, 2008
    Posts: 2,036

    desotot
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    Well, now that we've cleared that up we all know it's a 3 on the tree......right?
     
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  2. spanners
    Joined: Feb 24, 2009
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    3 on the tree when I was a lad.
     
  3. Budget36
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
    Posts: 13,319

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    Aw Tommy,
    A topic here can start off about a cam, then wind up about tire size;)
     
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  4. Crap. I still struggle with AM and PM
     
  5. theHIGHLANDER
    Joined: Jun 3, 2005
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    I said;
    I sent a direct message to your private messages to explain it all. If I went into it here I'd be told to shut the fuck up and the shit hits the fan after that. So in order to avoid the inevitable (in my opinion) what the fucks that are sure to come I chose to direct message ya. Ok, I really didn't and I'm not so sure too many will laugh out loud or say they're laughing my ass off. Be right back, gotta open the door...
     
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  6. Budget36
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
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    So, a question.
    Why does the door need to be opened, and have you gotten to it yet?

    Okay, two questions;)
     
  7. SS327
    Joined: Sep 11, 2017
    Posts: 2,562

    SS327

    Now see, isn’t regular ol English much better? And you don’t have to type it twice to translate it!
     
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  8. DDDenny
    Joined: Feb 6, 2015
    Posts: 19,328

    DDDenny
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    from oregon

    In my old age my concern is remembering to put the toilet seat back down when I'm finished, mainly because I'm usually not done and I have a short memory.:eek:
     
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  9. 302GMC
    Joined: Dec 15, 2005
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    302GMC
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    from Idaho

    Nope - it's "standard trans" ....
     
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  10. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
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    Its 2024, and you opened the door to getting this thread closed.
     
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  11. Tow Truck Tom
    Joined: Jul 3, 2018
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    from Clayton DE

    Hey,,:) Don't say dat: :) A Legit question just fine tuned to many experiences.:eek:
    I had a '61 Lancer the factory shifter was a floor mount.
    I sure don't read every post, no need
     
  12. DDDenny
    Joined: Feb 6, 2015
    Posts: 19,328

    DDDenny
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    from oregon

    Summon the bunny!
     
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  13. Fortunateson
    Joined: Apr 30, 2012
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    You mean “standard” as in customary, usual, regular, ? Today’s “standard” transmissions are actually automatics....
     
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  14. Fortunateson
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    John Wayne the fake hero, supreme blow hard guy? In the ground where he belongs!
     
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  15. Harv
    Joined: Jan 16, 2008
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    Harv
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    from Sydney

    Whilst we lament the younger generation and their toys, there is a lot to be grateful for.

    For a few decades, I thought REM were just warbling. NoRust’s post made me stop, do some Googling, and now I understand the background. How could I be so naive? 30 years ago I would never have been able to learn that fast.

    This cranky old git loves HAMB era stuff, but would have never have learned so much without you guys, and the HAMB, PMs and DMs that made you accessible.

    Cheers,
    Harv
     
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  16. Outback
    Joined: Mar 4, 2005
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    Outback
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    from NE Vic

    It was always 3 on the tree, different parts of Australia called the cast piece the gear lever fitted to a Honey Pot or Coffee Pot ????
     
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  17. Heading to feature thread status :D
     
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  18. theHIGHLANDER
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    At the same time this reply was happening there was some commotion outdoors. Next thing I knew some loud pounding echoed throughout the shop. As I went to the window I could see the unmistakable shapes of emergency lights, and uniformed individuals. "Whadaya want?" I shouted. "Open the door please, police." Not scared, not guilty, I opened up. "Are you Jocko?" "Maybe, what's all this?" "Is that your 1960 Ford over there?" "Yes, but it can be yours for the bargain price of...." "Stop there sir, I should tell you that you have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be..." "Stop stop stop, what kinda BS is this? You wanna buy the car or not? And if not thanks for stopping by." "Sir we have reason to suspect a near felony level fraud about the car. The low asking price points to something less than fair or correct and we..." "OK again, STOP! Don't let the low price fool you. This is a superb car at a great price. No shenanigans, no fraud for sure, my fuckin car and I'll sell it at my price. If you think it's a too good to be true deal then buy it yourself. There it is. If not then get out, and again, thanks for stopping by." They mumbled some kinda horse shit and I opened the door; "Officers...?" while pointing the way out. One of them whispered "I'll be back with my brother-in-law, he wants one really bad." "Ok" and with that they left. They never did come back, not yet anyways.
     
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  19. jimmy six
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    That’s all that needs to be said!
     
  20. Johnny Gee
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    from Downey, Ca

    Were you in the group Jaggerz when you was younger?

    “… Rap, rap, rap, they call him the rapper
    Rap, rap, rap, you know what he's after
    Rap, rap, rap, they call him the rapper”
     
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  21. jimmy six
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    Today is not the HAMB’s limit of 1965. Many full size cars moved their 3 speed transmission shifters to the column in 1940 where they stayed for the most part until the 60’s and much later. On some compact cars they were on the floor I’m sure for economic reasons. Many here use the word “tree” but I personally never did because I never heard the word until a guy I worked with said it in the late 70’s. He was from Minnesota if that makes a difference. I was driving standard shift cars with column shifts starting in 1959. There are other slang automotive words I don’t use either. It’s no big deal, irritating, but I’ll get over it!
     
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  22. Johnny Gee
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    from Downey, Ca

    I guess only a child could see the connection. :) IMG_2468.jpeg
     
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  23. gatz
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    A little off topic but if you’ve not read “How to talk Minnesotan” check it out, esp if you’re from the Midwest.
    The movie Fargo is replete with examples.
     
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  24. winduptoy
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    are you sure that isn't AM and FM
     
  25. theHIGHLANDER
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    Great, now we're back to "What's the Frequency Kenneth" again...o_O
     
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  26. Surely the etymology of "three-on-the-tree" stems from "four-on-the-floor," which I'm thinking started with "muscle cars," so your comment about it becoming prevalent in the 70s is probably correct.

    Do you have another way to say "chop the top"?
     
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  27. The stereotypical Australian uses lots of slang.
     
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  28. First: Some wise guy came up with "4 on the floor" (probably an early '60s magazine writer, as has been mentioned). The rhyme made people smile and the phrase spread pretty fast across the car enthusiast universe.
    Second: Fairly soon someone asked another wise guy, "Got 4-on-the-floor?" To which he replied, "No, got 3-on-the-tree", which was a clever play on the first rhyme and that spread like wildfire.
    Now both rhymes are etched in stone until the last manual gets recycled into Chinesium.
    However, 3-speeds will grow more confusing to cashiers who can't make change or understand the 'big-hand' from the 'little-hand'.
    And you can take all that to the bank!
     
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  29. Harv
    Joined: Jan 16, 2008
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    from Sydney

    So does the typical Australian :D

    cheers,
    Harv
     
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  30. X-cpe
    Joined: Mar 9, 2018
    Posts: 1,994

    X-cpe

    You have to admit, in today's world, trans is becoming more standard.
     

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